The primary mission of ParentData is to give parents the tools and data to make their own best decisions. When I talk about data, or decision tools, I try to do it in general. The Family Firm, which this post is very much in the tradition of, is all about using a broad set of workplace tools to make your family life better.
I want to tell you how to think about data and how to solve your own issues. Mostly I don’t want to tell you how I do things, because our families are different, our preferences are different, and I do not want to presume that what works for us will work for you.
Today, though, I’m making an exception, realizing that sometimes it is better to show than to tell.
In honor of the start of fall, when many of us re-do our routines and rethink our processes, I’m going to describe the various ways our family tries to keep things organized. Maybe you’ll come away thinking this is nuts. But maybe you’ll see something you like and could implement — in your own way — with your family.
There are two core parts of how my husband and I try to keep things happy and structured: emails and meetings. There are also a few tools, and I’ll get to that at the end.
Component 1: Emails
The cornerstone structure in my family comes down to two weekly emails. This is probably the most important way that we make things work, and avoid conflict. It’s a total of perhaps 30 minutes a week, all in, but delivers enormous value.
The first email is from me. It comes on the weekend, and it goes to everyone — Jesse, the kids, and our nanny, Clare. In this email, I literally list the days of the week and any notes about them.
An example…
- Monday:
- Normal school day for kids. I’ll be home by 5 for veggies [Editor’s note: We try to eat veggies together at 5, so that people eat some vegetables]. Dinner is chicken and rice — Clare, can you set up the rice? I can do the rest.
- Tuesday
- Normal school, with sports for Penelope after school. I’ll be home for dinner but not much before — it’s pancakes, I can take care of that. Kids: chocolate chips or plain? Jesse: are you home for dinner or not?
The rest of the email is the other days. Sometimes there are questions, either for the kids (like the pancakes) or for each other (often I need Jesse to tell me what train he is getting home on and what he wants to do for our Thursday-night date). If one of us is traveling, especially me, the email gets a little more complicated.
Sometimes it gets really complicated, like the early summer week when one day involved picking up one kid early from camp, going to the doctor, bringing them back, getting the other kid, taking them to a dance performance where everyone else would meet us, etc.
The expectation with this email is that everyone will read it and reply with questions, answers to my questions, or other edits.
Why is this so important?
Many weeks, it actually is not. The schedule is often predictable, and in many cases it wouldn’t be hard to, say, text about setting up dinner. When this really matters is when it saves us from conflict in the moment.
Case in point: Generally our kids walk together to camp. One week this summer, the older one was away, and I had forgotten this would mean someone needed to get the younger one to camp in the morning. Because of the timing of camp and our work schedules, this was possible but required moving some things around. By noting this on the weekend and working through the details, it was easy to figure out the solution. However, if we had gotten up Monday morning and realized that one of us had to reschedule something important at the last minute to accommodate this, at least one of us (probably both) would have been upset.
Basically, this is a small-scale version of my general advice that people bring forward conflict on purpose. If we deal with things in a cool moment when there is time to plan, it is just much better.
The second cornerstone email is about the weekend. Jesse does this one — he boomerangs it for himself on Wednesday mornings. Here, he proposes a weekend schedule and we go back and forth a bit until we settle. The value here is in part making sure that we hit all the things we want for the weekend: he gets some alone time one morning, I get my run time, we get some time all together with the kids, etc. We try to spend Sunday mornings together as a family doing something (usually, hiking) so this is an opportunity to figure that out.
Again: it’s a deliberate way to make sure we craft a schedule that makes everyone happy and avoids, say, the conflict that would come if I woke up and announced without warning that I’d be leaving for three hours Sunday morning to do my long run.
(When I mentioned to Jesse I was writing about this, he wanted to make sure I noted that he also creates detailed calendar invites for all weekend activities, including links to Google map directions. Honestly, I think this is insane, but it does prove that there are people in the world – and, apparently, in my house – more neurotic than I am.)
Component 2: Agendas
There is some data pointing to the importance of family meetings — or relationship “check-ins” — in improving marital satisfaction. One of my central pieces of advice for new parents (one that we did not implement when we had a baby) is to schedule check-in meetings early on. When you are not sleeping, not eating well, and panicked about every little thing, it is difficult to make the time to actually connect on what would make life easier. If you schedule the meetings in advance, you’re more likely to have them.
My kids are much older now, and we have a fair amount of time to talk to each other, including weekly date nights and many car trips where the children are listening to audiobooks. So we do not do much detailed meeting scheduling. What we do use are agendas.
Basically, when something comes up that needs more than a simple yes or no, we add it to the agenda for an upcoming date, or car trip, or something else. I just took a look at the agenda for tonight’s date. It includes evaluating an activity for an upcoming trip and talking about Chris Pepper’s recent ParentData piece on discussing porn with children (parenting older kids: a delight).
What this saves us from is the thing where one person decides to bring up a conversation at a time when the other person is just trying to, say, scroll their phone or watch Netflix before bed. That’s not the moment I want to start in on the right time to discuss online pornography.
Our kids are also, at times, involved with the agendas. This is not always welcome. On a recent car trip, a child was heard to scream, “I’m not carsick! I just don’t want to talk about any more agendas!!”
Tools: Not the most important thing
There are many (often tongue-in-cheek) articles written about families who use business tools in their household. I myself have talked about using Asana for task management, and about the value of shared Google calendars. These have value! The shared calendars in particular solve a lot of problems by giving visibility. We have a meal planning app, Paprika, that we use to coordinate menus.
Just like at work, though, the tools only go so far. For us, the emails and agendas — the active, rather than passive, visibility — are the more valuable parts.
Maybe this seems crazy! As I’m writing it, it does seem a little bananas. But I couldn’t (and wouldn’t want to) live without it.
Now if you’ll excuse me, there is a weekly email to write.
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Love this! We resorted to an app once we had 2 kids, 2 schools, and programmed activities for all of us. The app we have sends us a weekly digest on Sundays to help us prep for the week, but we’ve been struggling with the part of things that need a more participatory dialogue, so 💜 the agenda concept. Both hubster and I actively enter scheduled things, whether it’s work travel, committee meetings, kid activities, schools closings, into the app, and it has been a lifesaver. (We use Cozi, for those who care). Bonus is that it can “export” to Outlook or Calendar, so if I’m at work I can see the family schedule and don’t have to toggle between apps, because who has the time for that?!?
Bwahaha I love this but my partner would not go for it!
I love this idea & think I will use it! My husband and I already incorporate weekend time to review schedules-but love the idea of including our children-don’t know why I didn’t think of that before.
I am a proficient user of old school paper calendars, my husband teases me about new technologies such as google calendars-I think they are good for work but not for the kids (and the dog’s schedule-yes he has one too!)
Hubby has suggested a digital display calendar such as Hearth so we can all see it on display in the kitchen for instance-but in looking at the reviews-it looks like one more thing I need to program. Besides the weekly family email-which is brilliant!-anyone have any experience with digital display calendars? Any reccs would be most welcome!
Doesn’t sound crazy to me at all! We have a weekly family meeting on Sunday where we discuss our relationship (What did you appreciate? What do you need?) and the week at large (What is on your mind this week and how can your partner support? What do you want to do for fun?) and detail plan drop off/pick up, dog exercise, meals, map important events (against major events on our work calendars) and have a running docket of all the big events we have coming up. The template is started by me every Friday and usually finished by my husband on Saturday for us to discuss Monday. As a bonus, since meals are decided, it’s easy to make a grocery list (we’ve got a running one on the list app on our phones) and has saved us $$ because we only buy what we need. One change we made was to detail plan the weekends into morning/afternoon/evening blocks because I was tired of plans or needs defaulting to me—this has given us both more of what we need.
This should say to discuss Sunday.
I purchased a jumbo acrylic wall calendar (3ft x 4ft) that also has a shopping list, menu, and to do list. It’s old school but it works great for us.
This came in at a great time. Our weeks are well-scheduled but weekends at home with no plans are endless and boring and we all go stir crazy. We end up staying home bc we have conflicting nap schedules for our 2.5yo and 8mo. Any tips for structuring a free weekend so that each partner gets alone time, there’s some family fun, and some naps are at home? (Part of the answer may mean rolling the dice that the toddler falls asleep in the car and ruins his nap, but then the rest of the day is rough!)
We tackled this a few months ago and I’m not sure if it will work for you, but we have a table for each weekend day (on a Google Doc with the rest of the info I shared above) and it’s broken up into morning (8-11), afternoon (12-3) and evening (3-8). This reflects our daughter’s wake, nap and bed schedules, so you might have to adjust.
Generally, I get Saturday morning and my husband gets Sunday. We have a date night in the latest Saturday block (courtesy of a very reasonable/reliable sitter we found) and grocery shop and/or have family time in the latest Sunday block. We typically use Friday nights for whole family time (for us the museum, which is open late, a picnic at a park, dinner at a kids’ indoor space with a plat structure, etc. Kiddo has dropped her nap, but we still have quiet time 12-3 to mirror daycare. This has worked for us because we know we have to plan Friday, Saturday (though we tend to alternate) and Sunday nights and that we can make plans with friends during our respective times.
Baby #2 is on the way so I’m sure there’s extra nuances I’m missing.
Our uneventful weekends get broken into 3 chunks, morning, afternoon and evening (or sometimes 4 hour blocks). We decide the night before which is for a family thing (usually outside) based on weather but that’s only an hour or two tops so we’re back for naps and meals. Then if there’s something that one of us wants to do during a particular time like a specific game my husband wants to watch then we count that in. Then we decide who watches the kid during each shift and then the other is off duty.
I recently re-read Hunt, Gather, Parent and am really trying to implement having our kiddo participate in the things we want/ need to do. I try and get all chores done during the day with him present sometimes playing nearby other times “helping” sometimes I wear him but he’s awfully heavy so I can’t do it long. He plays independently while we read or watch soccer. The goal is for us to be able to relax after bed time since all the chores are done. We also try to limit kid-centric activities. They’re exhausting for us.
I have another friend that hires a babysitter for a few hours each weekend to help with their 2 kids since both need individualized attention. Then one parent can get things done around the house or go do something fun. I realize not everyone can afford that though especially if you’re already paying for care during the week.
Good luck finding a rhythm that works for you!
At the suggestion of a couples therapist prior to having our first child, we have traded off weekend mornings for 5 years now. The exact times we switch off change according to the kids’ nap schedules and family needs and sometimes we switch days or adjust times if we need to go somewhere in the morning. Currently here is what it looks like though:
6 am (kids are early risers) – 8:30 am: Parent 1 gets up with kids and parents
8:30 am – 11:00 am: Parent 2 takes over parenting; Parent 1 has free time
11:00 am onward: Both parents on duty to get everybody fed lunch, get Kid 1 ready for some quiet play time, get Kid 2 down for nap around the same time.
Usually between about 3:00 – 5:00 pm we try to go out and do something as a family because we find that we all go a little stir crazy in the afternoons otherwise. If the weather is nice this often means going to a playground or at least playing outside for a while.
This has worked relatively well for us and we have an understanding that if either parent really feels the need for a break sometime after 11 am we communicate about it and make sure we both have the chance if needed.
This is kind of my dream lol! But I have zero hope it would work with my husband. I’m never even sure if he reads my texts or emails. Sigh.
I grew up with weekly family meetings. It helped us as kids feel like part of a larger ecosystem and gave us space to provide input.
My husband and I have weekly check ins on Sunday, and we definitely plan to involve the kids as they get older and activities & responsibilities increase (they’re 3 and 5). People laugh when they hear about the color-coded flip charts of my youth, but it saved many headaches and was a weekly reminder that all those meals, rides, and vacations didn’t just magically happen. 🙂
The audiobooks- do the kids prefer audiobooks to music, is this a rule, did you encourage this choice, do you monitor so you know they are not just listening to YouTube etc.
What do you use to set and share the agenda? Like what tool/app? Interested in having something like this actually written down with the ability to add items to it to discuss during the meeting.
What age did you start sending the weekly rundown emails to the kids? Like – when were they expected to start thinking/planning ahead like this too?
My husband and I use Google keep for all co-planning things. It’s basically a sticky note app, but you can add checkboxes and invite people to collaborate. This is especially helpful for grocery lists, packing lists, and agendas.
We use Evernote. It syncs across desktop and mobile, works for iOS and Android (my husband insists on having an Android, probably just so that I can’t compose essay-length text messages to him). We share a shopping note with our babysitter, have a family level To do note, have a note for packing lists, a note for holidays. Probably at least 20 notes that are family wide (our kids aren’t on devices yet but they’ll get roped into this system as some point).
I would LOVE to use Asana with my husband, but he’s not pro-tech and he’s not an office worker, and he feels that using work-place tools for family stuff will somehow make family stuff feel like work (ummm, sometimes it just DOES). He’s agreed to use and is an active user of Evernote, so that’s a victory!
We also use Honeycomb for organizing and managing school emails and dates, and coordinating carpools and logistics with other families (disclosure: it’s my app! but it’s really good!). myhoneycomb.app/parentdata
We have a Google Template that we use every week with “all the things”. It lives in our shared drive, so anyone can initiate it, though it’s usually me. We both have to have our entires in by 12pm Sunday to discuss. We physically print out copies for each of us, so there are no real questions or things to back and forth about.
Our daughter is 3, but I hope to involve her in planning when she’s in 1st grade or so (6).
This is my ideal method of family organization – though my partner not to much. I finally got him to send calendar invites for activities that impact childcare like going away for the weekend, but not sure if I’ll ever achieve date night meeting agendas.